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#1 2005-05-09 23:12:34

Thomas
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Sexuality in Art

What about art vs. porn? I'm interested in hearing what some artists definitions of pornography are. Where do you draw the line between the two, or is it purely relative? Or looking at it another way; can a work that I consider porn also be art (can a work turn me on as well as make me think?)

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#2 2005-05-10 06:45:14

Richard K.
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Re: Sexuality in Art

I like James Joyces definition of pornography the best. He said pornography is that which makes you want to pocess something. In that defintion a advertisement for a automobile is as much pornographic as a girlie magazine.

Richard

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#3 2005-05-10 13:56:21

Daniel
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Re: Sexuality in Art

Well I think that the difference between art and pornography is in the artistry and ability to portray a work of art that enhances our erotic imagination, pornography tends to be vulgar and "obvious" while art using sex as a theme should be an interpretation of pure cerebral fantasy!

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#4 2005-12-22 05:03:02

smoothunit
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Re: Sexuality in Art

Porn, art, whats the difference. Its a word. Some people think my work is vulgar, some think it is funny, others think it is erotic, and some think it is absurd. The vast majority of people must like it. It sells, it makes them horny, it makes them laugh, it makes girls send erotic photos to me for figurine work. I have heard almost all the feedback. The consensus, they like it. I have several webpages, the most hits is the erotic figure gallery page, about 1000 per day. I also sell quite a few pro built vintage model cars, this is considered art also. Do we label it? Different strokes for different folks. I am bending no ones arm to purchase my work. The girls 18 - 50 are my biggest erotic fans. They call themselves Gonzo Girls. I am now in the process of starting an apparel line with that logo on it. Tee shirts, cami's, sweatshirts, thongs. I never thought of it, it was the girls request. There will be mens stuff also, for the car set. So what type of art is that? Graphic art? Or graffitti????? http://www.gonzosmodelcarsandfigures.net

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Creator of small scale erotic figurines/ vintage model cars. Home of The Gonzo Gurls.

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#5 2006-03-19 13:14:48

arthouse73
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Re: Sexuality in Art

In my experience art can be pornographic and yes pornography can be art, if rarely. The word pornography comes from the root word in greek 'pornia' from which also came the word 'fornicate'.... If art is erotic and explicit in representing a sexual act then it could arouse the viewer.  Wheras porn is designed to arouse, art is a creative expression of a personal or cultural viewpoint or experience, and the artists' intention should be considered part of the work.

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#6 2006-03-20 09:07:06

slinnky131
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Re: Sexuality in Art

I Do Not Look At A Picture As Porn. I Look At A Picture For Light Shaides,content,and How It Makes Me React. Not Just If It May Be Sexual.

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#7 2006-03-23 19:37:03

smoothunit
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Re: Sexuality in Art

I think Mr Slinnky hit the nail right on the head. I use this same scenario when looking at erotica. If it is sexual to me, being a very sexual person this is a plus. But the whole concept of how it looks to you, is what draws you to it in the first place. Some very sexual material is crap to me. While other material maybe not as erotic draws me to it, because of the way it is laid out. http://www.gonzosmodelcarsandfigures.net


Creator of small scale erotic figurines/ vintage model cars. Home of The Gonzo Gurls.

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#8 2006-06-19 17:15:22

motormuisje
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Re: Sexuality in Art

I've just finished the development of an erotic artwork website: www.sexycanvas.com. And I can tell you the banks put us in the "porn" edge. PayPal refuses us as a customer and we almost had to hire a lawyer to get through at VISA and MasterCard.

Crazy world! Do you think sexycanvas is porn??

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#9 2006-06-19 17:56:16

Daniel
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Re: Sexuality in Art

motormuisje wrote:

Do you think sexycanvas is porn??

No, it isn't. But I'm an european. :-)

Daniel

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#10 2006-06-19 18:15:56

smoothunit
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Re: Sexuality in Art

In regards to Sexy Canvas. Pornographic? I do not consider anything pornographic in art. My work is erotic, and called by some pornographic. I hate the word! I do not consider anything pornographic. If it is done by humans in a sexual sense, so be it. Call it human graphic. No one twists anyones arm to look, if it offends them. I think some are just to damn wrapped up in their own insecurities. Hey this is sexual, Duh!!! Most of us are. Typically, the ones that bitch the loudest are the biggest. My stuff is plastic, so it is plastic porn I guess. It must be terrible because I cannot keep it in my store. I would assume people are purchasing it to get it off the market, and then destroying it, LOL.

If you are human, open, and secure with yourself, create whatever trips your trigger. You cannot please all of the people all the time. I have had people write and say they love my unusual style. Other left wing snobs write and preach morality, But may steal from their company and feel they have a right, to it because its there. I am moral in the sense I am honest. I always shoot people straight. If I have an sexual artistic kink, that is my business, don't participate if it offends you. Visa, Mastercard? Now there are some honest companies, BS! Cut your throat when your down on the ground, But no porno!

Sexy Canvas, you have a wonderful site, very arousing! That is the point, is it not? Otherwise you would be showing pictures of old peoples socks or something. Keep up the good work. http://www.gonzosmodelcarsandfigures.net


Creator of small scale erotic figurines/ vintage model cars. Home of The Gonzo Gurls.

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#11 2006-08-28 17:33:21

yana
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Re: Sexuality in Art

There is a world of diffrence between art and porn though some artists like Carre stretch this to it existentialist maxima for example the site with erotic soft art which best contrasts several of these nude girls erotic art photographers is for me http://www.elitesense.com If any one knows of similar such sites please let me know.

Kindest

Yana

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#12 2006-09-07 19:13:34

americannj
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Re: Sexuality in Art

I have to say that I liked Sexycanvas alot! I think (though not 100% sure) I understand the problem with Paypal, Visa etc. I know it does not seem fair, but it makes a bit of sense if you see it from their side. They have decided that there are certain businesses that they will not support because the risks are too high, for a variety of reasons. Some of these areas are gambling sites, pharmaceutical importers and the adult industry. The reason, I believe, is that the amount of payment fraud in these areas are very high and it raises their costs. These are business people and not art lovers. They use cold hard criteria to decide if a business falls in a certain catagory. For example, they have probably decided that if they see pubic hair, you are out. But I think that few would consider your work to be porn. I have read that some payment transaction companies are less strict, though they charge a higer percentage.

Again, Sexycanvas guy, I do like your website and I wish you the best of luck with it!

Now have a look at my websites.........

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